1. Skip to navigation
  2. Skip to content
  3. Skip to sidebar


Forum


Welcome to the GigaPan Forum!

This is the place for Gigapan.com members to offer peer-to-peer support for exchanging tips, ideas, comments, etc.

Those who need direct technical assistance with their GigaPan EPIC Series imagers, stitching software or gigapan.com membership account should contact us.

Recent Posts
HarperPhotography HarperPhotograp...
Posted: Aug 6, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Stitching Issues

Hello all I having a problem with some images I am stumped and gigapan is as well..

http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/133630

I pointed out all its floors but it kinda looks like there is fog n myst on the image.. on the images they all look like there normal

Jenny Walsh Jenny Walsh
Posted: Aug 6, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

Hello from Gigapan! This is a great discussion. I’d like to contribute some information we have and have been using to guide viewer development.

First, the inactive snapshots are a result of a javascript bug that we are working to fix. We know the root cause and it is on our list. In a nutshell, snapshot inactivity occurs on viewers displaying images with fewer than 8 related Explore More thumbnails. It will be fixed soon!

A few of you have commented on missing the joystick on the pan control. The joystick feature is only available in Flash. One of our strategies for meeting the goal to increase the accessibility of the viewer to all site visitors on all devices was to remove Flash and create a fully HTML5 viewer. In exchange for all the benefits of HTML5, we had to let the joystick control go.

To help us with our functionality evolution decisions, we analyze site visitor behavior. In a recent experiment looking at how visitors use a viewer’s navigation controls, we found that out of almost 32 million navigation event actions taken by visitors on 2.4 million page views, use of the pan control tools made up 0.11% of total events. Navigation event actions include panning, zooming, tapping, and resetting. The zoom slider was initiated on only 0.01% of the total actions. Panning and zooming actions initiated by mouse or touch actions, however, made up 95% of the event actions that visitors used.

Our goal is to create a viewer experience that is absolutely centered on the image by being highly intuitive and inviting. Honing in on how visitors explore Gigapans is critical to this goal. The invitation to explore and engage with the image is also important. That is one of the reasons we have opted to fill the viewer with the image as the page loads using a visible zoom experience. While we understand that this does change the aspect ratio that a photographer defined, we are hoping that by demonstrating zoom and movement, the visitor will follow suit and spend more time fully examining all aspects of the gigapan.

The new viewer is less than a week old. Going forward we will be watching the use patterns and information coming in from the millions of eyes exploring our site every month. Your feedback, ideas, and concerns are much appreciated!

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 6, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I made a snaphot on Steven’s gigapan and have the same problem he and Chris reported – clicking on the snaphot (or any of the snapshots) does nothing. I then went to another pano and tried the same thing, and it worked. Here’s the pano for which it worked for me – maybe you want to try making a snapshot there: http://gigapan.com/gigapans/70131

I am using Firefox 22 by the way.

Michael Franz Michael Franz
Posted: Aug 6, 2013

Topic: General Gigapanning / what lens would you choose?

Panopookie,

I also have the 5D2. I primarily use 3 different lenses. 50mm f/1.4, 100mm f/2.8, and a 300mm f/4. The next lens I plan on adding is the 70-200. Your decision to get this lens receives my highest recommendations.

Regardless of the lens, we always tell our users, set your lens between f/8 and f/11. These tend to be the sharpest points in most lenses.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Best, Mike

Michael Franz Michael Franz
Posted: Aug 6, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Export stitch in high res?

digitaldreams…..

Please allow me to chime in here. I want to make sure that you have the correct information.

1. Gigapan Stitch and Stitch EFX allow you, the user, to export your images
directly to your desktop. We do not force anyone to upload to our site. In
the File menu of Stitch, you will see that there is an option to Export
Stitched image as either a TIFF or RAW (Adobe RAW).
The beta version on our website allow you to Export as either a Classic
TIFF, Big TIFF (only readable by CS6), JPEG, PNG, or RAW. It also allows you
to down sample the image if you choose.

2. PTgui, AutopanoGiga (APG), and Photoshop for stitching. I personally own
them all. While I don’t use Photoshop to stitch very often, I do use the
others. Are you aware that there are features in both of these programs that
allow you to align in a grid format the way that the Gigapan EPIC mounts
shoot? In PTgui, there is an “Align to grid” feature in the Project menu and
APG has a wizard that allows you to actually select the Gigapan as your
device and choose the pattern you shot the image in.

3. There is a reason that I own all of them. Some are better than others in
different situations. Often times when there is an abundance of blue sky,
PTgui and APG will have problems creating control points where Gigapan’s
forces them into their assigned location.

Seldom do I upload directly from Stitch. My typical workflow is this:
Shoot pano, import images into Lightroom for post processing, make adjustments and sync settings to all images, export those images out as TIFF’s or JPG’s and open them in my stitch program of choice. Once stitched, I export/save my images to my computer then open them in Photoshop, crop them and lastly I launch the Gigapan uploader.

I hope this is helpful. Should you have anymore questions, please let me know.

Best, Mike

Steven Graham Steven Graham
Posted: Aug 5, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I am having the same problem with inactive snapshots both existing and a new one I created today e.g. http://gigapan.com/gigapans/120733

It’s the same in Firefox, IE and Chrome.

panopookie panopookie
Posted: Aug 5, 2013

Topic: General Gigapanning / what lens would you choose?

I have a canon 5d mk2 (24-105mm f4) and an Epic Pro. If you were buying a lens for gigapan photography what length would it be?

I am probably going to buy a 70-200mm regardless, however for gigapan photography would the 300mm f4 offer any advantages?

also, what f stop would be ideal for the photos…. I struggle to see how a 300mm lens can make images that are acceptably in focus across a subject with a great deal of depth of field? Any explanation of advice.

TIA

Panopooke

Jerry Schoen Jerry Schoen
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

When I use Gigapan with Safari, trying to view in full screen (by clicking the 2 arrows on the right) returns either a blacked out screen, or sometimes a white or grey screen. I did get it to work for one or two gigapans, but there seems to logic to when it doesn’t work (90% of the time) and when it doesn’t.

Appears to work OK in Firefox.

John   Gleason John Gleason
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

Being relatively new to GIGAPAN, I found the old tools to be smoother and more fluid. Now zooms from the mouse scroll wheel cause a slight image shift left and right during the zoom. And indeed, as previously mentioned, the pan out and into the selected snapshot like a “helicopter” was a key feature that is now missed. I would like to know where that snapshot is in the image first. Then finally, with the old tool when you selected full screen, you got full screen. Now I see a GIGAPAN logo and controls in the full screen view as if I need to be reminded of them, and must press f11 for the full screen experience. So while there have been a few improvements, you should always keep good features from the previous versions.

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Export stitch in high res?

Autopano does all the things you want from a stitcher. You will need some software for viewing the results if you don’t want to upload to gigapan.com. KRPano is what I use for spherical (“VR”) projections.

In my experience and opinion Autopano is much too buggy for the price they charge, but it is probably the best all-round stitching program out there.

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I just tried making a snapshot and it seemed to work for me. Which gigapan did you try to make your snapshot in (and which snapshot is it if there is more than one)?

I know that the gigapan servers sometimes have problems with lag – you add/change something but your addition/changes don’t seem to have taken effect so you think “bug”. But if you come back hours later, you see the change you made has worked.

chris  hills chris hills
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I have no ability to click on a snap shot I have just sdnapped, on a panorama I made, I click and it no longer shows where that snapshot is in relation to the big picture and it wont zoom into it, bug ??

Chris Fastie Chris Fastie
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Export stitch in high res?

For some panoramas, Microsoft ICE does an excellent job stitching. It has an option for structured panoramas (row by column) although such structure is not required. After stitching, you can select from several different projections, straighten the horizon, and crop. It will output several file types at whatever resolution you choose, or upload the full resolution result to Photosynth.net, which has a nice spherical viewer. It is fast and easy — you can drag and drop your photos and it goes to work. ICE is free (Windows only).

Glen David Short Glen David Shor...
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: General Gigapanning / Lighting Problem

Unfortunately you can’t do much. Maybe, if you shot raw and/or bracketed, you could try and even out the differences with exposure fusion or tone-mapping, but my experience is it will still be noticeable; less noticeable in B&W. I try to shoot gigapans only when it’s completely cloudy, or cloudless. Otherwise, if there’s broken clouds, use the gigapan’s pause button to wait until the shadow or sun is consistent with the previous shots.

oleweigelt oleweigelt
Posted: Aug 4, 2013

Topic: General Gigapanning / Lighting Problem

Hi everybody,

I have made more than 1500 pictures of a building made of sandstone. Lighting changed during the session leaving unnatural stripes on the building.

What do you do – except from making a new shot – to normalize those photos. The same problem arises naturally when taking a 360 with 20 rows and more. I feel that I am nor the first one to run into that problem.

I have PS CS6 and LR4 to handle my pictures.

Thank you for your time

Ron Schott Ron Schott
Posted: Aug 3, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Export stitch in high res?

Stitch EFX may not do exactly what you’ve described, but it is quite easy to do what you want with a combination of Stitch EFX and Photoshop (or GIMP, I presume). I’ve had excellent success exporting stitched images in Photoshop RAW format and then modifying them in Photoshop (crop, change size, etc.) and then saving to any applicable format (remember some GigaPans can be too large for some types of formats). I agree it would be nice to have options like this built into Stitch EFX, but it’s really not a big deal to do most of the post-stitching work in Photoshop.

And maybe, if you ask nicely, Stitch EFX will incorporate some of these features into a future version…

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 3, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / Problems with the Forum

There is no way of asking the system to notify you of new posts on topics you are interested in (e.g. ones you have contributed to).

GigapanSystems have said elsewhere (http://gigapan.com/forums/167/topics/513) “It’s an old system. We agree it needs to be updated, but that’s not a high priority right now.”

I would like it to be a priority for two reasons.

1. The only way for someone to see if there has been a reply to something they have said is to remember to look. This doesn’t sound too onerous but in fact I find it all too easy to forget because of all the other information-age demands on my time: two email accounts and roughly ten accounts with organisations that send me notifications of events. I imagine for people with Facebook, Google+, Twitter etc accounts, remembering to check the Gigapan forum is even harder.

I will also add that for someone like me who posts in lots of fora, I might remember that I was expecting a reply to something I posted, but I am not always sure which forum I posted in. E.g. the initial conversation about the forum arose in the Membership forum (not the Web Site forum). It would be so much simpler if I got an email saying “Click here to see the new post”.

2. I think that the forum should be a fundamental part of the Gigapan “Customer Experience” but it does not seem that way to me. I think it is not used as much as one might expect and I worry this is because in the past, people have posted comments and questions and not received any feedback so they don’t bother any more. I appreciate that GS have recently made an effort to ensure that someone from GS monitors the forum, but they are still missing points that people make. Sometimes I think is this because the points are hidden in a thread. For example, I posted a series of questions that Josh fielded and then I replied with a further issue. Other people from GS have added to the thread but nobody has commented on my later issue.

I accept that it is probably not feasible for GS to read absolutely everything all the time, but I think that if people (i.e. including GS support staff) who posted something were notified when there was a response then there would be a greater chance that they would read and respond to the response. It seems to me this would lead to happier customers.

Or, maybe the problem is that the support system is confusingly split between the forum and the “Contact Support” page? GS could take the view – as it says at the top of this page – that the forum is “for Gigapan.com members to offer peer-to-peer support” ; i.e. it is for members to support other members and we should not expect to receive support from GS staff in the forum, and if we want support then we should use the “Contact Support” page. I’d reluctantly accept that as a way of running things – at least it would be clear where to go for the sort of support you want.

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 3, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

Didn’t notice the way you can change snapshot size – neat! It reminds me of something from an ancient wish-list which was something that allows you to see where existing snapshots have been taken. This would be useful when you want to know if you are about to duplicate what someone else has seen and if that’s the case then you can add a comment to their snapshot instead of taking your own.

I am in two minds about the missing tool that grandmasterbuilder refers to. Personally I prefer the simplified look without the tool and I never used the tool in the way he describes, but I can see that other people would want to do this. What I think is more important is that to make gigapans as accessible as possible, they need to be as user-friendly as possible. I think the removal of the tool makes gigapans less user-friendly because not everybody would think to try moving around the image by clicking and dragging. My vote is that the tool should be reinstated.

I also noticed that the initial view of the gigapan is such that the image fills the display area vertically rather than horizontally as it used to do. I like the fact that this makes the initial view (of long thin images which most are) more spectacular because the display area is not filled with lots of black pixels. On the other hand, people unfamiliar with gigapans are unlikely to realise that what they are looking at is not the whole gigapan. Again, I think the most important aspect of the UI is that it should be as inclusive as possible, so I’d like to see the initial view be based on the width of the image rather than the height.

There is another problem with the way the new viewer initially displays a gigapan, this time from an artistic point of view. The aspect ratio of an image is fundamental to one’s initial assessment of the aesthetic quality of the image. With the way the new viewer works (and given that most images are longer than they are wide) the initial display of the image is just wrong because you don’t see the whole image – the aspect ratio of what you see is not the aspect ratio of the image. It doesn’t help that the snapshot bar is splattered across the bottom of the image either.

grandmasterbuilder grandmasterbuil...
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I miss the old tool that let you move unlimited all over the image in all directions and speeds like flying in a helicopter.Can that be brought back to the viewer Now you have less or no control on zooming in a out on a image to the exact or accurate distance you want see in a image.

digitaldreams digitaldreams
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: Stitch / Export stitch in high res?

sadly no. gigapan forces you to use their stitich software and to upload it to their site. within that stitch app there is no way, that i can see, to export the result as a tiff or jpeg.

I too very much desire to do same as you.

alternatives are to use 3rd party stitch software but i’ve had zero luck, i tried PT gui, Kolor autopani giga and photoshop to try and stitch but its really tedious and difficult when you have 50+ images that have to line up properly.

it seems the Stitch EFX ecslusively has the algorithm to recognize the columns and rows of the images taken with the hardware, whereas 3rd party app don’t. now autopano giga comes close but it still fails for me.

i have a 45 image that stitches perfect with stitch efx but when i use autopano giga, same exact files will not line up properly no matter how i try. i’ve spent hours on hours trying this.

to be honest i’d rather have stitch EFX give me the option to export locally to jpeg, tiff or whatever format and let me decide what to do with the file. why must gigapan dictate that the final option is to upload??

i pay all this for software and hardware and be forced to upload the file.
i’d rather save locally where I can then adjust it to my liking. There is a lot more I can do to the image, like tone map, apply tiltshift, and many other effects via photoshop. My computer is perfectly capable of opening an 8gb tiff file.
even if its too large i want the option to resize the picture when exporting.

why are simple options not available?

yodabel yodabel
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: Digital Cameras on Gigapan / SONY Cyber-shot HX300 and Gigapan Epic100

Hello. I wonder if anyone has tried to use a gigapan Epic100 with a SONY Cyber​​-shot DSC-HX300.

I think the maximum zoom can not be used. But the camera is compatible?

In advance, thank you.

Please ! Help me ! :-/

Glen David Short Glen David Shor...
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: Web Site and Forum / New Seadragon-based JavaScript/AJAX Viewer

I like the way you can now adjust the size of the snapshot – a definite improvement.

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: api.gigapan.org / Impact of web site changes

With the current redesign of the web site, are there any planned changes to the API? If ‘yes’, will GS be able to warn those of us of have spent considerable amounts of time writing code that uses the current API please?

arronlee arronlee
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: Photo Editors / How to save a lower res Jpeg

JPEG 2000 is an image compression standard and coding system. It was created by the Joint Photographic Experts Group committee in 2000 with the intention of superseding their original discrete cosine transform-based JPEG standard (created in 1992) with a newly designed, wavelet-based method. Progressive transmission by pixel and resolution accuracy, commonly referred to as progressive decoding and signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) scalability: JPEG 2000 provides efficient code-stream organizations which are progressive by pixel accuracy and by image resolution (or by image size). This way, after a smaller part of the whole file has been received, the viewer can see a lower quality version of the final picture. The quality then improves progressively through downloading more data bits from the source. The 1992 JPEG standard also has a progressive transmission feature but it’s rarely used.The aim of JPEG 2000 is not only improving compression performance over JPEG but also adding (or improving) features such as scalability and editability. In fact, JPEG 2000’s improvement in compression performance relative to the original JPEG standard is actually rather modest and should not ordinarily be the primary consideration for evaluating the design. Very low and very high compression rates are supported in JPEG 2000.
TIFF (originally standing for Tagged Image File Format) is a file format for storing images, popular among graphic artists, the publishing industry, and both amateur and professional photographers in general. As of 2009, it is under the control of Adobe Systems. Originally created by the company Aldus for use with “desktop publishing”, the TIFF format is widely supported by image-manipulation applications, by publishing and page layout applications, by scanning, faxing, word processing, optical character recognition and other applications.
As for myself, I used to make a lower res jpeg from the full res Tiff file with the help of another image conversion SDK. It is just one of many but I do appreciate its simple way of processing. Even though I only tried its free trial package to convert images and documents and didn′t check the cost and licensing conditions, it worked great for me. Besides, this site also offers a lot of tutorials about how to convert document image using C#.NET. Share with you. And I hope you success. Good luck.

The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanogra...
Posted: Aug 2, 2013

Topic: General Gigapanning / New viewing tools

It’s being discussed here http://www.gigapan.com/forums/13/topics/535