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The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661"
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32.99 Gigapixels
Date added
Oct 14, 2013
Date taken

I was in two minds about whether to make this image public because of the horrible mess in the sky particularly around the lightship. The reason for the mess is that what I am trying to do here is make a gigapan that uses a mixture of focal lengths: short for the boring stuff, long for the interesting stuff. It's true this technique makes a gigapan whose size is 'inflated' but it has the advantage that only the areas of the scene that warrant extreme detail are shot with a long lens. This shot is a mixture of 17mm (for sky and grass), 55mm (for the horizon where the buildings are) and 200mm for the interesting buildings. Of course, what happened was that the clouds changed between the three shoots and I am rubbish at Photoshop, hence the horrible mess. I will add in my defence that is quite difficult to edit a 365GB image file on a machine with 16GB RAM. In the end I decided to make it public in the hope that the idea behind the technique inspires other people to try the same thing (and improve on my stumbling efforts :-)

Gigapan Comments (12)

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  1. David Engle

    David Engle (January 20, 2014, 09:04PM )

    Hey Kilgore661 ... Looks like your next trip should either be to Moscow or Minnesota, both probably safer than Nepal and places in India, or maybe the world can go to Bath, where you can give us all lessons ... and fix it up so after the lessons are complete, we then travel to Paris for the lab :)

  2. Tom Nelson

    Tom Nelson (January 20, 2014, 02:08PM )

    I'm not carping, just saying it doesn't work for me.

  3. Valentin Starodubtsev

    Valentin Starodubtsev (January 20, 2014, 10:06AM )

    By the way I have looked through almost all your panos you have made for almost 6 years (from 2008) and many of them are very good and some are really brilliant even in spite of their possible stitching noticeable errors! I have made as Favorite about than 20 your panos! Your experience is really worth more close reviewing and studying! Personally for me it was amazing to see than you had made your panos even in winter time when one can mostly see only monotonous black and white colors. We even did not plan to make shooting in winter time on this reason (absence of most colors) and also because quick discharge of all batteries (in the camera, the computer and the head). The third it is really very cold in Moscow (it is about -20 C for several days) and one can not stay several hours motionless near the head and the lenses can be perspired because of the temperature differential outside and inside the car. We do hope for your answering completely the question about .kro format above. Thank you for your work! It really helpes to see the world closely! Your detailed Great Britain map is really unsurpassed and besides very nice and useful tool!

  4. Valentin Starodubtsev

    Valentin Starodubtsev (January 20, 2014, 10:03AM )

    Another important issue for us and that is why asked earlier about xnview program as we use it for opening .kro format files which are generated by Autopano now. Do you use kro format at all for uploading gigapano files or maybe you use some another format? I mean here working with large gigapixel files with the size 50-350 Gb and more. The problem is that now we have to create 2 types of files using Autopano – 1. psb files - just for reviewing and processing image files in PhotoShop, and 2. .kro format files generated by Autopano with the same settings as for psb files - just for uploading ready image files. As our experience has shown the size of .kro format files is 2-3 times less than psb files and uploading .kro files is in several times quicker than psb files as kro files is uploaded without any additional time consuming file's transformation before uploading. BUT we can not to review now by any program .kro files. And it is now BIG problem. XnView program should open these kro files BUT in fact it does not open it and the author of the program failed to fix the problem yet. For sure there a certain feature in tone-mapping. One has to be accustomed to it before taking and then using it.

  5. The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661"

    The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" (January 20, 2014, 06:28AM )

    @Valentin Thanks for your comments. I know what you mean about the "cartoon-like" effect caused by tone-mapping but I like it. Not saying you are "wrong" not to like it, just different :-) Sorry I can't help with the xnview problem - I don't use it. @Tom Interesting point about load on the computer. I haven't made any measurements but my intuition says the load is very much reduced because of the way that Autopano works. I would also like everything to be sharp but if it is not practically possible to shoot everything at the highest resolution then the alternatives are not to shoot it at all or try something else. The mixed resolution approach seems like a good idea in principle especially when not all areas warrant high resolution. Whether or not my current approach can be made to work (by me in particular) is another question of course.

  6. Tom Nelson

    Tom Nelson (January 19, 2014, 02:32PM )

    You have to blow up the low-res photos to match the high-res ones, right? So although the technique lets you shoot faster, it doesn't reduce the load on your computer. Also, I just like everything to be sharp.

  7. Valentin Starodubtsev

    Valentin Starodubtsev (January 18, 2014, 12:47PM )

    In fact we (Valentin and Volodya (Moscow, Russia) engaged in panoramic photography as well for some time) really both liked your photo in spite of certain a slight cartoon impression (red ship and edging of buildings and trees) and the apparent errors which are now above you because of Autopano program. Dear Kilgore661, we have some problems (yet not solved with the help of the author of the program) in reviewing .kro files and the problem was described here - newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php ?f=35&t=19027&start=45 Will open in
a new tab or window Can you provide any advice? Thank you. If you like our photos can review here - www.gigapan.com/gigapans?query=shik ov

  8. The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661"

    The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" (January 14, 2014, 10:03PM )

    I do publish nearly everything I shoot because I consider it all to be part of a learning experience for me and others. What are your other reasons? The problem of editing a massive image is a big disincentive for me.

  9. Tom Nelson

    Tom Nelson (January 14, 2014, 09:05PM )

    Don't worry about the messy sky, Kilgore, you can always be a warning example to others. I consider the multiple-resolution technique not worth doing for this and other reasons.

  10. David Engle

    David Engle (October 15, 2013, 12:22PM )

    Ask cmlbath if there are any yet to be discovered Shakespeare plays, and if so, will they take place in Gloucester ... my guess is that where you are standing and sitting in this spectacular GigaPan, may have had a major historical action, which is currently lost to memory, and only the intervention of finding a play will identify this historical site. As I remember, a recent article in the Telegraph spoke of three or four plays that have Shakespeare characteristics amount the lines :) wouldn't that be something if a famous battle occurred at this exact spot?

  11. The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661"

    The Gigapanographer Currently Known as "Kilgore661" (October 15, 2013, 12:21PM )

    Thanks for the kind words :-) For completeness I have uploaded a version made from just the 17mm shots which doesn't have the problems with the sky www.gigapan.com/gigapans/142497

  12. David Engle

    David Engle (October 15, 2013, 09:56AM )

    This is a "stand out" GigaPan .... a red boat, something from Shakespeare, something from Charles Dickens, a spectacular glimpse of Gloucester Cathedral and a 32.99 gigapixel panorama that looks great ... actually it looks fantastic ... congratulations. p.s. lets go back to Paris and visit for a year :)

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